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North Dakato Questions Ethical Hunting - Proposed Ban

Thanks to Rick for reporting the news out of North Dakota. A proposed ballot initiative would ban private hunting preserves throughout the state of North Dakota. Currently preserves allow hunters to come in, pay a good chunk of change, and then hunt in a fenced in area. Of course, there are people now crying out about unethical hunting practices and wish to shut this practice down.

The debate goes on. This is big news and as you can see is hitting the blogs online.

My only question to those reading is how ethical is it for the farmer to slaughter the cow out back behind the barn to sell to the market? Do we shut down all the meat factories? Maybe we should refocus a bit on what is hunting? and what is killing for meat?

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  1. Doug | Aug 17, 2007 | Reply

    So judging by your comments. Michael Vick should be allowed to have dogs which he owns fight on land that he owns?

  2. Steve Remington | Aug 17, 2007 | Reply

    Hi Doug,

    There is nothing in the article that mentions dogs and dog fighting. We are talking about fenced in hunting.

  3. Ithaca37 | Aug 17, 2007 | Reply

    Are you suggesting that these people are hunting at the petting zoos for meat?

    If so, do a little research and you will find it is all about trophies. As far as ethics is concerned consider this: Boone and Crockett will not enter animals taken at one of these high fence operations in to their record books. That should tell you somehting about these operations.

    Slaughter house are unrelated to the discussion of what is ethical in hunting and what isn’t. In fact, there are many questions about the practices of slaughter houses and ethics.

  4. Seneca | Aug 27, 2007 | Reply

    It really is painful to see so many people who believe strongly in ‘wise use’ falling victim to the tactics used by those whose only true motive is to end all hunting, all animal use and all animal consumption.

    It has been all too easy for the anti’s to use the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy and pit one group of sportsmen against another. Why?

    Any time you look around and you are on the same side, of an issue as those who want to end hunting entirely (don’t be fooled people, whether it’s done in a big area or a small area is not the issue; they want to END your rights and your way of life, permanently!)If you see that you are on the ’same side’ of an issue as those extremists, you better take a good hard look at what you believe in, and what you care passionately about. Because one day, your method of use or consumption are going to be on the HIT LIST. Who is going to stand up and defend your right to hunt in the manner YOU deem appropriate?

    True, you may not want to hunt in a style similar to what someone else does, but does that eliminate THEIR right to do so?

    Where is the argument about the right to ‘choice’? No one is forced to go to one of those facilities. Is it not part of the free enterprise system to allow people to choose?

    Is it okay to cook a chicken or not?

    Is it okay to kill roaches in your home, or not?

    Every species owes its existence to another organism being consumed, one way or another, whether it is plankton or broccoli, none of us exist on this planet without consumption of some sort.

    There is a circle of life, and we are part of it. We consume to survive.

    Is that ethical?

    Who gets to decide what is ethical FOR YOU?

    Is it only okay to eat meat that you pay someone else to ‘harvest’ (kill)?

  5. Rex | Sep 6, 2007 | Reply

    I don’t mind a fenced area if it is big enough. How big? I don’t know. Several standards are at 3000 acres for deer. I want the animal to have a chance to make it through it’s lifetime if it is smart and tough enough.
    Each place should have a reserve area with no hunting also. Thanks for linking me to your news site, have returned the favor.

  6. John | Jan 19, 2008 | Reply

    Those tactics really are similar to those who would end hunting all together if they could. It is our right to hunt to eat if we wish, how can anyone create rules of how we eat. Will it only be ethical to eat “wabbit” at some point, I hope not.

    http://huntinglivegame.info

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